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		<title>Stats&#8230; and Bill Eckhardt</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jez Liberty</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the New Year break I read the illustrated Cartoon Guide to Statistics which was great to go over the basics of classical statistics, and the format makes it easy to pick it up for a few minutes reading. I have also been recommended, and bought Statistics Unplugged &#8211; which deals with the same topics [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the New Year break I read the illustrated <a href="http://www.automated-trading-system.com/Gonick-Cartoon-Statistics" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Cartoon Guide to Statistics</a> which was great to go over the basics of classical statistics, and the format makes it easy to pick it up for a few minutes reading. I have also been recommended, and bought <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0495602183/autotradblog-20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Statistics Unplugged</a> &#8211; which deals with the same topics more in depths. But to be honest it still sits untouched on my desk&#8230;</p>
<p>Another area of statistics which very often comes up in the context of <em>serious</em> trading system development is <strong>Robust Statistics</strong>. I have not found a good book to leave <em>unread</em> on my bookshelf on Robust Statistics yet so I&#8217;ll have to make do with with an <em>unused</em> bookmark on the <a id="aptureLink_gqT4oeXufz" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robust%20statistics" target="_blank">wikipedia article</a> ;-)</p>
<div id="attachment_1378" style="float:left; margin-right:16px; margin-top:4px; width: 251px;"><img src="http://www.automated-trading-system.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/William-Eckhardt.jpg" alt="William Eckhardt" title="William-Eckhardt" width="236" height="286" class="size-full wp-image-1378" style="float: left; margin-right: 16px; margin-top: 4px;">
<p class="wp-caption-text">William Eckhardt</p>
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<p>Anyway, Bill Eckhardt is a succesful automated trend follower with a strong background in Mathematics (although he apparently never finished his PhD &#8211; abandonning his studies for the trading pits). He was also Richard Dennis partner in the Turtle Trading experiment. I re-read his interview in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1592803377/autotradblog-20 target="_blank" rel="nofollow">New Market Wizards</a> where he emphasises on a few concepts such as understanding statistics, bet size, and even psychology.</p>
<p>Here are some interesting inssights from the book interview (starting pg 107):<span id="more-1356"></span></p>
<p>- Statistics are an important element of mathematics for trading:</p>
<p>- &#8220;The analysis of commodity markets is <strong>prone to pitfalls in statistical inference</strong>, and if one uses these tools without having a good foundational understanding, it&#8217;s easy to get in trouble.&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;Classic Statistics work well if you are correct about data distribution assumptions. Because distributions are pathological, <strong>we need robust techniques</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;define what you mean by robust?<br />
A robust statistical estimator is one that is <strong>not perturbed much by mistaken assumptions</strong> about the nature of the distribution.&#8221;</p>
<p>- He mentions the concept of infinite variance in market prices distribution and particularly <strong>Mandelbrot</strong> and his precursor work on this topic.</p>
<p>- Traders should be <strong>more conservative in risk control</strong> than might be implied from statistical interpretations using normal distribution</p>
<p>- <strong>Less degrees of freedom is better</strong> &#8211; a degree of freedom is a parameter that produces a different system for every value (e.g. length of Moving Average in crossover systems).</p>
<p>- Chart patterns do not work</p>
<p>- Wished he&#8217;d <strong>focus more on money management</strong> at the start of his trading career (and mentions that in trading, Money Management is the most tractable problem, mathematically speaking)</p>
<p>- Mentions Utility functions and states that <strong>all the utility functions used in his risk management model are bounded</strong>. He takes the example that if utility functions were unbounded, there would be an amount for which a billionaire would be willing to bet his whole net worth at the flip of a coin.</p>
<p>- Interesting remark about bet size: if you plot system performance against bet size, you obtain a curve in the shape of a <strong>rightward-facing cartoon whale</strong>, going up in a straight line before dropping dramatically.</p>
<div id="attachment_1371" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 164px"><img src="http://www.automated-trading-system.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/whale.png" alt="Eckhardt&#039;s righward-facing whale" title="whale" width="154" height="105" class="size-full wp-image-1371" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Eckhardt's righward-facing whale</p></div>
<p>- &#8220;Trading size is one aspect <strong>you dont want to optimize</strong>: the optimum comes just before the precipice. You want to be at the left of the optimal point, in the high zone of the straight curve&#8221;</p>
<p>- Gives his point of view on psychology and trading.</p>
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		<title>Market Wizards&#039; Schwager Video</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 13:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jez Liberty</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Jack Schwager]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really enjoyed reading Jack Schwager books (Market Wizards and New Market Wizards) where he interviews top traders. So, I was pretty pleased when I found this presentation video where Schwager goes over his findings on what makes great traders. Entertaining and worth a watch at the weekend&#8230; His material is not directly linked to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed reading Jack Schwager books (<a href="http://www.automated-trading-system.com/market-wizards-schwager" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Market Wizards</a> and <a href="http://www.automated-trading-system.com/new-market-wizards-schwager" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">New Market Wizards</a>) where he interviews top traders. So, I was pretty pleased when I found this presentation video where Schwager goes over his findings on what makes great traders. Entertaining and worth a watch at the weekend&#8230;</p>
<p>His material is not directly linked to automated trading but there are still relevant points to system development and trading strategy.</p>
<div id="attachment_1350" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 299px"><img src="http://www.automated-trading-system.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Schwager.png" alt="Jack Schwager" title="Schwager" width="289" height="239" class="size-full wp-image-1350" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Jack Schwager</p></div>
<p>He starts with an empirical rebuttal of Random Walk Theory and explains that there is no holy grail. He then covers most of his points by giving anecdotes and insight from the traders that he interviewed in his books (Jim Rogers, Ed Seykota, Larry Hite, etc.).</p>
<p>Some notes from the video (link further below):<span id="more-1343"></span></p>
<p>- Trade with your personality: build a system that suits your personality. You need to have a system you truly believe in and which matches your personality. You will lose if you buy a system.<br />
- Importance of having a method: system<br />
- Touches on essential points of trading success: risk management, discipline, independence of ideas.<br />
- Losing/being wrong is part of the game.<br />
- Patience, althoug this can be replaced by computerized trading.<br />
- As a side note: computerized trading might be the best way to alleviate some shortcomings of you natural trading abilities (i.e. patience, discipline, sticking to a system/method).<br />
- Passion is necessary: trading is like a game<br />
- There is an interesting question at the end where an attendee asks whether any of the traders that Schwager interviewed managed to succesfully computerize their trading strategy. Schwager replies by the negative!&#8230; What about Ed Seykota?&#8230;<br />
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Anyway, here is the link to the video. It is used as a marketing offer for Ino TV so you have to go through the 1-min intro vid before giving your details (you can just give dummy ones and it&#8217;ll let you through after clicking the OK button &#8211; no email confirmation):</p>
<p><a href="http://tv.ino.com/free/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">VIDEO: Jack Schwager talks on What sets great traders apart.</a></p>
<p><div id="attachment_1349" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 190px"><a href="http://tv.ino.com/free/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://www.automated-trading-system.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Schwager-link.png" alt="Schwager video" title="Schwager-link" width="180" height="158" class="size-full wp-image-1349" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Schwager video</p></div><br />
Enjoy!</p>
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